diff --git a/lib/neutron b/lib/neutron
index 53fc5fcd15..9923721e74 100644
--- a/lib/neutron
+++ b/lib/neutron
@@ -431,15 +431,17 @@ function start_neutron_new {
     if is_service_enabled neutron-l3; then
         run_process neutron-l3 "$NEUTRON_BIN_DIR/$NEUTRON_L3_BINARY $NEUTRON_CONFIG_ARG"
     fi
-    # XXX(sc68cal) - Here's where plugins can wire up their own networks instead
-    # of the code in lib/neutron_plugins/services/l3
-    if type -p neutron_plugin_create_initial_networks > /dev/null; then
-        neutron_plugin_create_initial_networks
-    else
-        # XXX(sc68cal) Load up the built in Neutron networking code and build a topology
-        source $TOP_DIR/lib/neutron_plugins/services/l3
-        # Create the networks using servic
-        create_neutron_initial_network
+    if is_service_enabled neutron-api; then
+        # XXX(sc68cal) - Here's where plugins can wire up their own networks instead
+        # of the code in lib/neutron_plugins/services/l3
+        if type -p neutron_plugin_create_initial_networks > /dev/null; then
+            neutron_plugin_create_initial_networks
+        else
+            # XXX(sc68cal) Load up the built in Neutron networking code and build a topology
+            source $TOP_DIR/lib/neutron_plugins/services/l3
+            # Create the networks using servic
+            create_neutron_initial_network
+        fi
     fi
     if is_service_enabled neutron-metadata-agent; then
         run_process neutron-metadata-agent "$NEUTRON_BIN_DIR/$NEUTRON_META_BINARY $NEUTRON_CONFIG_ARG"
diff --git a/lib/neutron_plugins/services/l3 b/lib/neutron_plugins/services/l3
index aa61a109fa..9c9143a225 100644
--- a/lib/neutron_plugins/services/l3
+++ b/lib/neutron_plugins/services/l3
@@ -154,14 +154,6 @@ function _neutron_get_ext_gw_interface {
 }
 
 function create_neutron_initial_network {
-    if ! is_service_enabled q-svc && ! is_service_enabled neutron-api; then
-        echo "Controller services not enabled. No networks configured!"
-        return
-    fi
-    if [[ "$NEUTRON_CREATE_INITIAL_NETWORKS" == "False" ]]; then
-        echo "Network creation disabled!"
-        return
-    fi
     local project_id
     project_id=$(openstack project list | grep " demo " | get_field 1)
     die_if_not_set $LINENO project_id "Failure retrieving project_id for demo"
diff --git a/stack.sh b/stack.sh
index fab2edd299..2783efed6b 100755
--- a/stack.sh
+++ b/stack.sh
@@ -1267,7 +1267,10 @@ if is_service_enabled neutron; then
     start_neutron
 fi
 # Once neutron agents are started setup initial network elements
-create_neutron_initial_network
+if is_service_enabled q-svc && [[ "$NEUTRON_CREATE_INITIAL_NETWORKS" == "True" ]]; then
+    echo_summary "Creating initial neutron network elements"
+    create_neutron_initial_network
+fi
 
 if is_service_enabled nova; then
     echo_summary "Starting Nova"